February 16,
2006
Wendy:
Why
is it that soooo often guys want
me as their best friend, like a
sister, the one they pour out their
soul too, but yet they won't date
me? I'm their best buddy but meanwhile,
they date someone who "goes
all the way" but has the emotional
capacity of a snapping turtle. Why
am I the one they want to hang out
with during the day, tell their
deepest secrets too, but for the
night time I'm not invited?
Then he wonders why, when he marries
her, he eventually feels wilted
attraction, and starts singing the
refrain "I've lost that lovin'
feeling, oh oh that lovin' feeling".
I say, "Duh dude, that's cause
you never had it." You had
that with your friend "the
sister", the one you skipped
over when you walked down the aisle
and married someone else to live
unhappily ever after. I don't get
it.
Wendy, I really enjoy hanging out
with him and he and I have so much
in common, so much more in common
than his girlfriend, who offers
next to nothing except, as far as
I can tell, someone with whom to
have sleep overs. At least I have
the "dating doplar radar system"
to sniff out his shallowness and
not let him date two girls, one
the friend (who never really gets
a date) and one for sex (who never
really gets friendship). But it
still stings that once again that
I'm the best buddy who, because
I'm a great friend, just isn't "sexy".
The whole issue surfaced to the
top of my irritated mind today.
He called me again today and generally
I think is intrigued by me.
Help!
Tracy
Bowman writes:
According to
romantic comedies, eventually he
will see the light and realize how
wonderful the friend is and marry
her. I would love to say this is
standard behavior, but as this girl
has pointed out, it isnt.
If this friend of hers is still
at the point where looks/sex interest
him more than substance, she doesnt
stand a chance. And she shouldnt;
why want a guy that shallow? So
what if hes genuinely interested
in her mind or their emotional connectionif
thats not what he wants in
a girlfriend, thats not what
he wants. And its not what
hell go after. He has to decide
he wants a friendship with his girlfriend
before he sees the light. Until
then, she should try to form friendships
with other guys she might get somewhere
with, and who are interested in
a well-rounded relationship.
Lucie Winborne says:
Wendy, there are so many questions
that come to mind when reading this
young ladys letter that its
almost hard to know where to start.
But I believe that many times, asking
questions is far more useful than
simply doling out advice. With that
in mind, here is what I would say
to the writer if I could sit down
with her face to face:
- Why do you
wish to pursue a man who, if you
describe him accurately, has proved
himself so shallow?
- Why and
how are you hanging out
with a man who already has a girlfriend?
- Does his
girlfriend know about you? If
so, how does she feel about your
relationship with her boyfriend?
- You say
you think the man is intrigued
by you. What exactly does intrigued
mean here? That he is willing
to drop his girlfriend for you?
Do you want to be the other
woman?
- You say
the only thing the other girl
seems to offer is sexual availability.
On what are you basing that assumption?
If its something, or many
things, hes told you about
her and their relationship, hes
not being fair or kind to her
in sharing intimate information
with you.
- The man
in question is clearly used to
receiving free and easy sex. Will
you be willing to provide the
same if he drops his current girlfriend
for you? If not and it
doesnt sound like you would
- how long do you think his intrigue
will last? My guess is, regardless
of your charms, not very long.
- You asked
why you are the one whom guys
always want as a best friend rather
than a date. I think the answer
has been far better stated by
other writers who have gone through
this experience, but the gist
of their advice boils down to
the fact that you are only hurting
yourself by allowing yourself
to be used as a buddy.
- By giving
these men unlimited (figuratively
speaking) amounts of your time
and sympathy, you allow yourself
to be emotionally used but not
really appreciated at least
in the way you wish to be. A little
feminine mystery would go a long
way here. This is a delicate balance,
as Im not advocating coy
or misleading behavior, and I
think its a skill that far
too many of todays women
have lost or quite likely
have never been taught, which
is a real shame. But sometime,
you might try watching some of
the old classic movie couples.
Do the women give free access
to themselves as buddies? Do they
talk, act, and/or dress like one
of the boys? Not at all.
There is a subtle withholding,
and clear gender line drawn. The
mother of Christian author Elisabeth
Elliot used to tell her daughter,
Always keep him guessing.
Considering how men are hardwired,
its not such bad advice,
although it would sound dated
to many in todays world.
Wendy Shalit adds:
I think this
is all good advice. But I would
just like to add one small thing.
I happen to know that this letter-writer
is in fact a beautiful person and
also not likely to be "promiscuous"
with her emotional attachments,
so I think her question is more
difficult than it appears on the
surface. In this era of casual non-dating,
when even a man who likes a woman
might not know how to pursue her,
I think it's reasonable for a woman
to hope that a friendship might
develop into something more.
Don't get me
wrong: I think the classic old
are wonderful too, but the problem
is, if your potential husband isn't
going by the same script, he might
not realize that you expect him
to be Humphrey Bogart. Therefore
I think it makes sense for a woman
to be pleasant and friendly back
to a man, enough to give a chance
for their friendship to blossom
further, but she must keep conversations
short enough to signal that he'll
actually have to date her to get
more of her time. This applies,
of course, only if he's not currently
dating someone else (whatever their
physical relationship may be). If
he is, whether the couple is abstinent
or living together, out of respect
for this other woman and also out
of respect for herself, a cooler
demeanor is in order.
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